For the side of Evil only! Good dudes can suck it!! (Mega Battle Info)

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Post  GeoffKlassen on Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:53 am

We will need some fast troops to take the ruins, and we need to get rid of the artillary as fast as possible. If we have some harpies for march block on the reinforcments that would also be helpful. So a couple of units of harpies 7-9 stron would be good for that. For shock troops cold one knights or chaos knight would be helpful.

Not sure on the dragon Carson with only 375 points on lords or heroes doesn't give you much space for a dragon. But Hydras are good for a breath weapon. Leave off the bolt throwers they are not as useful in this situatiuon, they are going to be in hard cover or out of line of sight because of all the units.

What other armies do we have?

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Post  Ironwoulf on Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:51 am

GeoffKlassen wrote:We will need some fast troops to take the ruins, and we need to get rid of the artillary as fast as possible. If we have some harpies for march block on the reinforcments that would also be helpful. So a couple of units of harpies 7-9 stron would be good for that. For shock troops cold one knights or chaos knight would be helpful.

Not sure on the dragon Carson with only 375 points on lords or heroes doesn't give you much space for a dragon. But Hydras are good for a breath weapon. Leave off the bolt throwers they are not as useful in this situatiuon, they are going to be in hard cover or out of line of sight because of all the units.

What other armies do we have?

I've got about 8-10 harpies. As well as 6 dark riders.

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Post  squalie on Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:46 pm

How often does anyone expect march-blocking to work? Speed is cool, but not as big an issue in 8th as It's not uncommon to be in contact by turn 2. In theory, and by design, our units should be tougher anyways so I'm not concerned about march blocking. Cutting down their artillery is going to be instrumental in a victory, so any fast unit should be a guided missle with a single purpose in mind. I think we should have a designated lvl 4 for each area and a back up spellcaster in the event he gets the ingredients wrong and blows up.

Everyone should post a list so that we can at least get a framework of what we'll be working with...even 2 lists depending on what armies you possess. <-- use that word often Twisted Evil . Most of our armies have access to or are based around fear and psychology, so as someone mentioned we should capitalise on that.

I have Beastmen and a Chaos Warriors army to Field. I could field what's left of my Daemon army, but my core would be Horrors and Daemonettes, which are certainly not the optimum choice considering there would be no dice left to cast with the Horrors and Daemonettes just don't hit hard enough. The special and rare choices are pretty cool though and are more than fast enough to missle war machines.


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Post  Nathan.A. on Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:50 pm

Hey guys I was thinking of maybe being the guy who brings the cav to smash the ruins. I can take a large unit of Black knights, (ethereal movement) as well as a flying vampire lord with -2 to hit and a 3+ ward against shooting. Put the +1 movement banner on the knights, and they are movement 9, with the ability to be resurected if they get banged up on the way. Oh and I got a spell for +8 more inches of movement on 7+. Ah yes and I can put a standard on the knights that gives them all a 4+ ward against any ranged attack (shooting or magic).

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Post  Ironwoulf on Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:41 pm

Nathan.A. wrote:Hey guys I was thinking of maybe being the guy who brings the cav to smash the ruins. I can take a large unit of Black knights, (ethereal movement) as well as a flying vampire lord with -2 to hit and a 3+ ward against shooting. Put the +1 movement banner on the knights, and they are movement 9, with the ability to be resurected if they get banged up on the way. Oh and I got a spell for +8 more inches of movement on 7+. Ah yes and I can put a standard on the knights that gives them all a 4+ ward against any ranged attack (shooting or magic).

Good idea. if you need more I have 9 or 10 black knights you can borrow.

Beastmen have ambush rule which can be used to our benefit. and scouting harpies

How are we going to guard the siege tower as that is one of our major objectives?


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Post  Nathan.A. on Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:03 pm

Ironwoulf wrote:

Good idea. if you need more I have 9 or 10 black knights you can borrow.

Beastmen have ambush rule which can be used to our benefit. and scouting harpies

How are we going to guard the siege tower as that is one of our major objectives?

I May have to borrow those knights actually, I'll see how many I can fit in 1500 pts.


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Post  TheWade on Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:24 pm

Dear Evil general (yet to be determined),

The great Chaos forces of the west greet you. We look forward to joining your campaign against the peons of good. To follow wil be a list of the forces I can muster. Please inform me what you wish to join your force.


Tzeentch Character (Warrior or Sorceror) on a Disk of Tzeentch
Nurgle Character (Warrior/BSB or Sorceror) on a Palanquin
Tzeentch/Slaanesh Character on a Daemonic Steed/Steed of Slaanesh
Chaos Character on Daemonic Steed
Chaos Character/BSB on Daemonic Steed
Tzeentch Character (Warrior or Sorceror) on foot
Khorne Character on Juggernaut

...sheesh I'm going to miss look out sir...

Hellcannon
Chaos Warshrine
2 Giants
10 Chaos Knights
15 Marauder Horsemen
6 Chaos Ogres w/ Great Weapons
20 Chaos Warriors with Halberds
15 Chaos Warriors with HWS
15 Chaos Warriors with GW/Halberds
(These can obviously be combined into whatever combination we need)

So, I can bring along a force that would suit multiple purposes as necessary. I stand firm on my position that a well equipped Tzeentch Level 4 on a Disk would make an excellent caster for our force. Third Eye of Tzeentch, +5 to cast, Ward Saves anyone?

I will abide, however, by whatever missive you might send me in regards to force composition.

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Post  GeoffKlassen on Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:05 pm

Wade I think the major thing is the cannon and the mage than after that have fun and take what you want. Chaos is pretty sturdy no matter what they take.

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Post  TheWade on Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:35 pm

So, can we get around to picking our general any time soon?

So far I see it as a tie:

Myself, Paul and obviously Eric vote for Eric.

Ironwoulf, NathanA and obviously Geoff vote for Geoff.

Looks like Carson, Scott and Don still need to vote. Seriously, let's get it done shall we?

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Post  Nathan.A. on Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:01 am

Hey guys here is a list I was thinking of:

Vampire Lord: Flying horror, Infinite hatred. Armour of Night (shooting is -2 to hit), Wristbands of black Gold (3+ ward vs ranged).
315 pts

Wight King: Bsb, skeleton steed, lance, Flag of blood Keep (4+ ward vs ranged for unit).
212 pts.

Black Knights x22: Full Command, hatred banner.
593 pts

Core 375 pts
Can be wolves or skeles, wolves to hunt warmachines would probably be better.

Anyways critique welcome.

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Post  Carson on Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:16 am

I already voted for Geoff.

Nathan, list looks good. I'd probably go with wolves for a nice fast all mounted list.

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Post  TheWade on Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:19 am

My apologies, I totally missed that.

So that makes it 4 for Geoff and 3 for Eric.

We are waiting on Scott and Don then to finish this off.

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Post  squalie on Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:10 pm

I vote for Eric.

No matter who is decided general, I will publicly state that I expect, and insist upon, that the general act in an appropriate manner and understand that their duty is to simply organise team evil. Your primary duty is to ensure everyone has a good time. Period. I'm hoping we can refrain from any more drama as it would seriously affect my decision to attend the event.

Alright, with that out of the way, let's have some fun and kick team goods' @$$!!

I can bring a Beastmen army that could/would include up to:

60 gors
4 chariots
40 Bestigors
10 Mino's

Or a Chaos Warrior army that could:

48 Warriors
Hellcannon

I'm just posting available important models and have left out characters as any combination could be made.

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Post  RickyDMMontoya on Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:35 pm

I have innumberable Minotaurs (painted) and innumerable Chaos Warriors/Knights/Misc. (unpainted) if that influences your leanings in either direction Don.

TheWade wrote:So, can we get around to picking our general any time soon?

So far I see it as a tie:

Myself, Paul and obviously Eric vote for Eric.

Ironwoulf, NathanA and obviously Geoff vote for Geoff.

Looks like Carson, Scott and Don still need to vote. Seriously, let's get it done shall we?

Carson already voted for Geoff:
http://raveninghordes.forumakers.com/tactics-f12/for-the-side-of-evil-only-good-dudes-can-suck-it-mega-battle-info-t806.htm#7384

So now it's tied with Don's vote for me.

Scott holds the tiebreaker.

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Post  squalie on Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:51 pm

I could actually bring this list:

Herald of Slaanesh, Siren Song, Torment Blade, lvl 1 (channel)
28 Daemonettes, Banner of Ecstacy, ranked 7 X 4

5 Flesh hounds
5 Flesh hounds

3 Nurglings, scout -- good little Warmachine hunters
3 Nurglings

2 Fiends of Slaanesh - excellent Warmachine hunters! 10" + swiftstride charge.
1 Fiend of Slaanesh

6 Flamers

1496 Points

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Post  RickyDMMontoya on Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:09 pm

I like that list a lot.

I don't plan on using any of my Flesh Hounds, so you could replace the Nurglings with 6 more Flesh Hounds if you feel like it.

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Post  squalie on Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:22 pm

I would actually. I'm not entirely convinced with the Nurglings, although I've only tried them once. What I DO know is that Flesh hounds are usually an ace unit. Regardless of who's general, I'll take a version of the Daemon list I just posted.

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Post  Nathan.A. on Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:32 pm

Carson wrote:

Nathan, list looks good. I'd probably go with wolves for a nice fast all mounted list.

Yeah thats kinda what I was thinking.

However in the army book it says that dire wolves don't count towards min core requirement, does that still exist in 8th under the new 25% rules? That'll hurt if it does.

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Post  RickyDMMontoya on Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:36 pm

"Some Core units do not count towards the minimum points you must spend on Core units (sometimes written as 'do not count towards the minimum number of Core units you must include' or variations thereof) or indeed the minimum number of units you must include in your army. In fact, such units don't count towards any category, just the points value of the army."

Page 134.

Same reason why no one bothers taking Empire detachments or Skaven Giant Rats anymore. Not counting towards Core is awful.

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Post  Nathan.A. on Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:41 pm

Alrighty thanks Eric, I guess I gotta make the core skeletons or zombies or ghouls.


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Post  TheWade on Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:52 pm

So, here's a question...if aligned characters can join other's units...what about an Exalted Hero or Level 2 Sorceror with Diabolic Splendor who can join up with one of those Screaming Skull catapults for a -2 to leadership. Add in the Doom Totem and that's -3...

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Post  RickyDMMontoya on Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:59 pm

Characters can't join war machines anymore.

That's why all those engineers have special rules that effect stuff within 6" now.

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Post  RickyDMMontoya on Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:30 pm

Is Scott ever going to vote?

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Post  squalie on Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:31 pm

I'm not sure he's even attending the event. Tis a shame.

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Post  ScottRadom on Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:15 pm

I'm not going. All that bullshit really fuckin' put me off.

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