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Post  Carson on Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:35 am

Carson, Vermin Swarms † † † † † † † † † † † † †...274pts, 15/7/0
Sean, Undying Dynasty's † † † † † † † †† † † † ....107pts, 6/2/0
Peter, Warriors of the Dark Gods †† † † † † † ††...198pts, 9/3/2
Nathan R, Sylvain Elves † † † † † † † † †† † † † † † ...225pts, 11/7/0
Dom, Vampire Coven † † † † † † † † † † † † † † †...288pts, 13/12/1
Don, Kingdom of Equitaine † † † † † † † † † † † ...89pts, 4/3/1
Andre, Dwarven Holds † † † † † † † † † † † † † † ...201pts, 9/12/1
Dean, Ogres † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † ...3pts, 0/1/0
Dwayne, Empire of Sonnstahl † † † † † † † † †† ...42pts, 1/3/1
Patrick, Saurian Ancients † † †† † † † † † † † † † ...21pts, 0/4/1
Derek, Warriors of the Dark Gods † † † † † † †...200pts, 7/14/1
Josh, Empire of Sonnstahl † † † † † † † † † † † ...258pts, 12/17/1
Nathan A, Dread Elves † † † † † † † † † † † † †† † †...72pts, 3/3/1
Brian, Warriors of the Dark Gods † † † †† † † † ...29pts, 1/3/0


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Re: Winter league standings

Post  nathanr on Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:52 am

Questions:
1. When is this league ending?
2. What is the format for playoffs?
3. Has everyone paid their league fees?
4. How many games does one need to qualify for playoffs?

Thanks Carson for keeping track of all this.
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Post  Carson on Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:57 pm

dec15
top 2 in points, top 2 points per game
don, andre, dean, dwayne, and brian have not paid
12games

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Re: Winter league standings

Post  Derek on Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:04 pm

The League is ending Dec 15th???

So its all year? Its a 2018 league?

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Post  nathanr on Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:11 pm

I think it should be jun 15 as the leagues are typically 6 months but I could be wrong.
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Post  Derek on Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:06 pm

That sounds better to me lol
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Post  Carson on Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:14 pm

ah yeah, slight mistake there Very Happy

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Re: Winter league standings

Post  Kal on Thu May 17, 2018 9:47 am

Oi Carson, i'm missing a game Razz

i was 3/1/0 before Saturday and i had two games,

Vs Dom was Win for me 18-2

Vs josh was Win for me 11-9

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Re: Winter league standings

Post  Carson on Thu May 17, 2018 10:41 am

Ah sorry, Ill fix it.

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Post  Kal on Thu May 17, 2018 11:06 am

Carson wrote:Ah sorry, Ill fix it.

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Re: Winter league standings

Post  Carson on Wed May 30, 2018 4:31 pm

Hey guys!

Shortly, we will be entering the final month of this league. Remember that you need 12 games to qualify for playoffs, the clock is ticking....

Please pay your league fee's!

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Re: Winter league standings

Post  Carson on Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:38 pm

still missing 4 league fees......

Question.......should warband size games be worth the same league points as league standard games? I'm suggesting half points rounded up starting next league.

Thoughts?

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Post  squalie on Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:45 pm

Maybe edit first post to show who's paid or not as I can't remember if I did. Very Happy
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Post  Carson on Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:52 pm

shame shame shame! Very Happy

Don, Andre, Dwayne, and Brian

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Post  squalie on Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:54 pm

It would also make sense to get less points for smaller games as you could crunch a lot more in a day. Technically, 40% of regular 5000 point league games would equate into 40% of total points, but half would be fine for me. I'm waaaaay behind this league anyways, lol.
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Re: Winter league standings

Post  PeterW on Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:52 pm

I'm all for halving the points earned from a warband sized game. They are shorter, alter extrernal and internal balance and with each unit worth a large percentage of the total force the points spread is more often than not on the side of big wins, at least from what I've noticed.
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Re: Winter league standings

Post  Derek on Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:05 pm

I am not for reducing the points awarded for a warband game. These are 9th Age point system numbers. I like to think that the system works. I do see the reasoning to some degree but I hate to think that we are penalizing people for playing smaller games due to time available (both as a person and for a game itself), location, available models or some thematic reason. The philosophy has always been that the combatants could play any size battle as long as they agree on the size and it would be a league battle. If it is an 8000 pt battle do we get more points than normal?

On this note:

Saying what I just did makes this point almost kind of moot, but I would like to put forth that the official league battle point size be altered to 4500pts. I know this was talked about months ago, however, becoming more involved in the hobby I have come to realize that 4500pts is the universally recognized size for army lists. I don't understand why we have to be different in this. I believe the justification was that people wanted to get that extra character or some unit in their list...well that is more than doable as you can play any size of battle, just agree with your opponent. I would think it would be vastly more important that any one of us can easily throw down with any one from any other geographic locale and be competitive and have fun. By not being used to playing with a 4500pt army this could be an issue.

I would also like to bring up the length of each league season. 6 months is pretty long. Yes there are some guys struggling to get in 12 battles in 6 months, but that happens, life gets busy sometimes and other times you can get 3-6 battles in during a 10 day period. I in no way am trying to alienate anyone or the Moose jaw guys at all. I don't have any personal issues with anyone, except Carson he is a Rat Bastard Very Happy, I just know that there are like 1-3 guys that would have joined the League if it was not so long, due to when they started to play. My stance has always been to be to expand the League and grow the core group of players any way that I can.

my 2 cents


I would like to hear what you guys think Very Happy
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Re: Winter league standings

Post  PeterW on Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:59 pm

After thinking more on the issue I'm swapping sides to be with Derek on this one. Mainly because I didn't even think of some of the penalizing consequences. Halving the points would mean that even if I scored a 20-0 win it would only net me 10 points, meaning in terms of playoffs positioning my points per game is actually dropping. Despite me winning the game it actually only gets counted †as a draw when averaging points.

In response to the other notes brought up:

I have hummed and hawed over the 4500/5000 point games thing a lot and still am totally fine with either especially considering we can play whatever size we want if agreed on. True that 4500 is the more universal standard, though.

As for the length of the league I will play no matter how long they last but heck I just barely made my 12 games (13 with my last one against Andre) this past 6 months haha. Did people really say they wouldn't play because the league is too long? That seems odd to me, but I guess I can understand that.
Lets say it changes to 3 leagues a year, 4 months each, or even 4 leagues and 3 months each, would the amount of games required to be played for playoff qualification also change?
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Re: Winter league standings

Post  Mhael on Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:05 pm

Odd. I am usually the first to pay.
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Re: Winter league standings

Post  nathanr on Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:55 pm

I agree that a 20 minute 2000 point game shouldn't hold as much weight as a full 5000 point game. Not sure how to deal with that though. Maybe for every 2 or 3 games at 2000 points that someone plays you could take the average score and count that as 1 game for the league? It is a lot more work on the league organizer's part. Or you could just make 2000 point games count for 8 points if you lose and 12 points if you win (10 is still a draw) so you can't have people getting 40 points in an evening and throwing the whole league points system off-kilter Twisted Evil .
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Post  Derek on Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:42 pm

Pete....I don't mean that people wouldn't play. I meant that I know Sam and Alberto would have signed up for the league but it was 2-3 months in already so they decided to wait. and they still have to wait 3-4 months. What about Justin and Johnny? I just think we may lose potential players if they feel they have to wait until a new league is over. I think Alberto is in the wind and he has a pretty decent army. 4 month might work better and there could even be a break between leagues if there has to be...just a thought.

I like the idea of perhaps the 8 pts for a loss 10 for a draw and 12 for a win for Warband rules battles...but does it equal out? I played a 8000pts game a couple of weeks ago, do I get more points? I'm not trying to be argumentative just want everyone to look at all sides of these issues.
Not a fan of the averaging out points concept...way too much room for error and work for the Admin.
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Re: Winter league standings

Post  Carson on Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:55 am

The league will wrap up this Sunday evening and then we'll move into playoffs.

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Re: Winter league standings

Post  Carson on Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:12 pm

final league standings and playoff match-ups! † †***minimum 12 games played***
Carson, Vermin Swarms † † † † † † † † † † † † †...274pts, 15/7/0 † † † † † ppg 12.45
Sean, Undying Dynasty's † † † † † † † †† † † † ....107pts, 6/2/0 † † † † † † † † † †
Peter, Warriors of the Dark Gods †† † † † † † ††...198pts, 9/3/2 † † † † † † † † †14.14
Nathan R, Sylvain Elves † † † † † † † † †† † † † † † ...225pts, 11/7/0 † † † † † † † 12.5
Dom, Vampire Coven † † † † † † † † † † † † † † †...288pts, 13/12/1 † † † † † † † † 11.08
Don, Kingdom of Equitaine † † † † † † † † † † † ...89pts, 4/3/1
Andre, Dwarven Holds † † † † † † † † † † † † † † ...201pts, 9/12/1 † † † † † † † † † 9.14
Dean, Ogres † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † † ...3pts, 0/1/0
Dwayne, Empire of Sonnstahl † † † † † † † † †† ...42pts, 1/3/1
Patrick, Saurian Ancients † † †† † † † † † † † † † ...21pts, 0/4/1
Derek, Warriors of the Dark Gods † † † † † † †...200pts, 7/14/1 † † † † † † † † † 9.09
Josh, Empire of Sonnstahl † † † † † † † † † † † ...258pts, 12/17/1 † † † † † † † † † 8.6
Nathan A, Dread Elves † † † † † † † † † † † † †† † †...72pts, 3/3/1
Brian, Warriors of the Dark Gods † † † †† † † † ...29pts, 1/3/0

this is subject to any games played today

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Post  nathanr on Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:47 pm

Thatís pretty close for the ppg between you and I Carson, we should have played a game to decide it.
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Post  Carson on Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:13 pm

Yeah it was fairly close before the weekend but never realized how close it was.

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