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Post  |marauder| on Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:32 am

Good day all - Don suggested I sign up here to answer any Flames of War questions
I used the same User name as I do on Battlefront's website.
However, my "real" name is Lance & I am from Regina.

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Post  Kal on Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:46 am

Welcome! I just started FoW and am probably one of the main reasons Don asked you to sign up as ive annoyed these boys with many questions lol. Excellent

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Post  nathanr on Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:28 pm

Welcome! Most of the FOW stuff is in the "non-warhammer gaming" section way at the bottom. I look forward to your advice as well. I'm mostly just blundering my way through games at the moment to figure out what I've got and what I need.

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Post  squalie on Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:42 pm

Welcome Lance! You're a much needed source of advice.

Lance, is a good fellow and very approachable. Don't bother asking "which is best" questions as he'll just answer "whatever you like!" Lol. Perfect answer I guess...

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Post  |marauder| on Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:37 pm

squalie wrote:Welcome Lance!  You're a much needed source of advice.

 Lance, is a good fellow and very approachable. Don't bother asking "which is best" questions as he'll just answer "whatever you like!"  Lol. Perfect answer I guess...
LOL Flames of War is a very balanced game a better player with a mediocre list (codex) will almost always beat a mediocre player with a fantastic list (codex). But, in my honest opinion there are not fantastic lists (caudexes).
So fire away with the questions - that is why I joined up on this site.

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Post  Kal on Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:16 pm

... Did everyone read what he just said. Questions good sir! I have plenty. Tons here already

http://raveninghordes.forumakers.com/t1763-sean-s-tankovy-batalon

Long story short, i have Russian Tanks, i like Russian Tanks and thats pritty much all i wana run... But i want to have a chance to win, i hear pure tank wont against dug in infantry? is there a way i can stay tanky and still win. U dont know how i play but its pritty much charge, charge charge, hope i roll well and GG?

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Post  |marauder| on Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:58 am

Kal wrote:... Did everyone read what he just said. Questions good sir! I have plenty. Tons here already

http://raveninghordes.forumakers.com/t1763-sean-s-tankovy-batalon

Long story short, i have Russian Tanks, i like Russian Tanks and thats pritty much all i wana run... But i want to have a chance to win, i hear pure tank wont against dug in infantry? is there a way i can stay tanky and still win. U dont know how i play but its pritty much charge, charge charge, hope i roll well and GG?
No problem - but in order to charge home you need an infiltration move - Decoy Company, Spetsnaz, or Scouts are your answer!

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Post  Kal on Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:31 am

Ok so ive never played or even seen a game yet so not sure what a infiltration move IS... So which would suit my list / style more? Spetsnaz sound fun Smile

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Post  |marauder| on Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:21 am

Kal wrote:Ok so ive never played or even seen a game yet so not sure what a infiltration move IS... So which would suit my list / style more? Spetsnaz sound fun Smile
Each Nation gets their own flavor rule set to reflect them historically.
The Soviets have several:
* Q of Q -> Quantity has a quality all its own = 15+ infantry take ten hits to pin as well as a larger assault bubble
* Infiltration -> Special Forces (in some cases literally) attach themselves and lead your troops to the front = a 16" bonus move
* Komissar -> your troops need motivation = kill one and get a reroll

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Post  Kal on Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:11 pm

Quantity is good Very Happy . Ok the extra movement sounds rly over powered, is it that useful? Killin my own dudes? is there a limit on how many times u can do this? or u got 2 dudes left and can still do it?

Ok here is another question, what is the easiest way to tell these damned tanks apart?!!

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Post  |marauder| on Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:35 am

Kal wrote:Quantity is good Very Happy . Ok the extra movement sounds rly over powered, is it that useful?
?!!
Really overpowered?
- take what advantages you can get! Smile
No, it mitigates the space and distance the Germans need to brew up your tanks. Plus Recce and proper deployment of your opponent can reduce your 16" move.
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Killin my own dudes? is there a limit on how many times u can do this? or u got 2 dudes left and can still do it?
Once per turn but no - there is no limit. However, don't roll a "1" as they turn on the Kommisar at that point.
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Ok here is another question, what is the easiest way to tell these damned tanks apart?!!
Which tanks?

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Post  Kal on Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:15 pm

Brew my tanks? Damn british and their tea brewing ways! So what unit do i give this 16" move to? Or?

No limit is excellent lol. haha turning on me is kinda funny, what do they kill that guy?

Well all tanks, what turrets go with what bodies. Not every turret seems to fit flush. Ive figured most of them out i think i was having issues with the year differences but being the same tank? I have 7 IS-2's i think? Seems like to many... Or not enough?

Ok new question. If i add a SMG squad to each tank this is good yes? What is thst exactly and how do i represent it on the model?

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Post  |marauder| on Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:34 pm

Kal wrote:Brew my tanks? Damn british and their tea brewing ways!

SWW tank term that is still in use today meaning blown up tank; without being morbid as you may have just lost your buddies.
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So what unit do i give this 16" move to? Or?

Usually your biggest or slowest (the infiltration platoon will state which company/platoon can be attached). My son attaches his infantry company to them moving 30-40+ infantry stands 16" closer to his opponent
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No limit is excellent lol. haha turning on me is kinda funny, what do they kill that guy?

Yes, an infantry team is removed
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Well all tanks, what turrets go with what bodies. Not every turret seems to fit flush.

You may have to do a bit of filing
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Ive figured most of them out i think i was having issues with the year differences but being the same tank?

Ah, yes, it will be the same tank - you need to look for differences such as T34/76, T34/57, & T34/85. However, the different years will translate to different abilities and slightly increased armour and such. You will find the differences in the arsenal section.
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I have 7 IS-2's i think? Seems like to many... Or not enough?

Depends, sounds like you have made yourself a Heavy Armoured Tankovy. Personally, I think too many. If I was you I would snip off the muzzle brakes and make them IS 8s - but that is just me = still a heavy Armoured Tankovy but a way better/quicker/cheaper Battalion.
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Ok new question. If i add a SMG squad to each tank this is good yes? What is thst exactly and how do i represent it on the model?
Are you meaning a TE (Tank Escort)? If so you can just say you have them to test them out but there are models to glue on to the back of your tanks. My son Levi who plays Soviets has twenty-eight tanks equipped with TEs. If you have Tankovy Battalion in my opinion you need one company to have TEs.
Each tank has an extra SMG shot, Each tank has an extra dice in defensive fire that cannot be ignored if you happen to get Sneaking Up on Tanks snuck up on, but most importantly you get an extra assault dice.
But, maybe that was not what you meant?

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Post  squalie on Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:22 pm

Thread jack;

I'd like to replace the typhoon in my lists with 40mm bofors (not SP). My reasoning is they're cheaper, count as a platoon, can't be waved off, more dependable and can defend an objective.

Everyone's thoughts?

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Post  |marauder| on Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:50 pm

squalie wrote:Thread jack;

 I'd like to replace the typhoon in my lists with 40mm bofors (not SP).  My reasoning is they're cheaper, count as a platoon, can't be waved off, more dependable and can defend an objective.

 Everyone's thoughts?
Won't kill any Big Kitties but your reasoning is sound - what else do you have for those seven platoons/troops?

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Post  squalie on Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:05 pm

Seven platoons troops? Don't get it.

All of my lists are armoured so I usually have 4 platoons that include AT15, so I feel I've done pretty much all I can do to fight panthers and tigers.

I'm going to start a "my armies". thread tonight

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Post  |marauder| on Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:19 pm

squalie wrote:Seven platoons troops? Don't get it.
British/Polish referred to their tank platoons as troop ie Cavalry Troop. Still do today as far as I know (not sure about the Polish). If you watch any history shows that have a British tanker he will refer to his unit as a troop.

squalie wrote:  All of my lists are armoured so I usually have 4 platoons that include AT15, so I feel I've done pretty much all I can do to fight panthers and tigers.
Well, you are safe from me running big kitties - I find they cost too much in points.

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Post  Kal on Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:43 am

Ok answering you Mr Marauder as best i can.

1- the 16" thing, so i would want that on my 10 T-34's or on my IS-2's right?

2- Fileing sucks, i hate metal figs. I more meant that the turrets felt loose in their holes. 2nd question can i glue the tracks and stuff and THEN paint later or?

3- ok so it is very important that the years are represented properly, yes?

4- i agree that 7 is to many. So i can run 4 IS-2's but i didnt see IS-8's in my Forces Of War tank list?

5- ok so Tank Escorts wuld fill in the gap of me having no infantry and help with assulting dug in troops yes? No?

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Post  squalie on Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:09 pm

I think he may have meant IS-85's? Tou have an issue with your turrets being loose in the tank. Jesus, I've heard it all....

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Post  Kal on Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:02 pm

Thats what the question was for, i was having a hard time figureing out what turret went with what base. ive gotten most of them but there is a group of 4 T-34's (i think) that just dont fit AS well as the others.

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Post  |marauder| on Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:26 pm

Kal wrote:Ok answering you Mr Marauder as best i can.
Call me Lance Wink
Kal wrote:
1- the 16" thing, so i would want that on my 10 T-34's or on my IS-2's right?
Certainly! And, with ten TE as well that is 20 assault rolls rather quickly!
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2- Fileing sucks, i hate metal figs. I more meant that the turrets felt loose in their holes. 2nd question can i glue the tracks and stuff and THEN paint later or?
A.It does but it will be resin so don't breathe it in.
B. I do - I glue everything first then paint - that way I can play sooner!
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3- ok so it is very important that the years are represented properly, yes?
Yes, but where are you looking at this information?
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4- i agree that 7 is to many. So i can run 4 IS-2's but i didnt see IS-8's in my Forces Of War tank list?
A/ Not unless you are running a Heavy Guards list
B/Yes, you can run 4 IS2's - not IS-8's --> IS 85's or KV 85's (85 is 85mm gun)
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5- ok so Tank Escorts wuld fill in the gap of me having no infantry and help with assulting dug in troops yes? No?
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Oh yes, they help remove dug in troops rather rapidly. Again a word of caution when you move into assault there is defensive fire; with two bailed or destroyed tanks the assault is pushed back. Also, five hits will pin your TEs for the 1st assault.

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Post  |marauder| on Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:28 pm

Kal wrote:Thats what the question was for, i was having a hard time figureing out what turret went with what base. ive gotten most of them but there is a group of 4 T-34's (i think) that just dont fit AS well as the others.
What do they look like - the same as the others or is there a difference?
Also, there will be T34-76 & T34-57 barrels in the box. The 57's are longer and more powerful but this is not a turret issue for rotating.

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Post  Kal on Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:38 pm

Ok then, Lance it is.

Ok 20 assault rolls sounds like a lot, im in. So for the advancing tanks should they just be cheap or should I spend the points for the later model T34/85? ... im sure ill need the book, That's on forces of war somewhere yes?

My goal is always play sooner. paint later

Im just matching pictures up from the shop.

IS-85's seem... boring? are they real tanks or like weapons platforms?

So its 2 tanks even tho I have 10 of them?! Ok so more TE's are key to help me against dug in troops yes? Good to know muhaha.

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Post  |marauder| on Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:43 am

Kal wrote:Ok then, Lance it is.

Ok 20 assault rolls sounds like a lot, im in. So for the advancing tanks should they just be cheap or should I spend the points for the later model T34/85? ... im sure ill need the book, That's on forces of war somewhere yes?
You could go with Desperate Measures but the book you really want is Red Bear. Or, wait a couple of weeks/months and there will be a new book called Berlin out.
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My goal is always play sooner. paint later
That is me too.
Kal wrote:
Im just matching pictures up from the shop.
Shop?
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IS-85's seem... boring? are they real tanks or like weapons platforms?
Boring?
How so?
In the Russian language an "I" is a "J" = an IS = Joseph Stalin tank. That being said the Soviet heavy tanks used to be called KV (cannot remember his name but he fell out of favor) and were replaced with Joseph's name instead. The IS 85 was a stop gap while they retooled/got a larger caliber barrel to deal with the Tiger & Panther tanks. The IS 85 has the same gun as the T34-85, however the chassis armour and speed are vastly different. Eventually, the IS 2s rolled off the assembly lines and supposedly so did the IS 3s.
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So its 2 tanks even tho I have 10 of them?!
Sorry - what is two tanks? The IS 2 and IS 85 are two different tanks. Although, to look at them the only difference in the model is the muzzle break. A muzzle break is the phallic looking piece at the end of the barrel the decreases recoil of the round.
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Ok so more TE's are key to help me against dug in troops yes? Good to know muhaha.
Yes, TEs are a Soviets ally. They worked so well the Germans copied them.

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Post  Kal on Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:14 pm

Why is it I really want Red Bear? I've heard Desperate Measures was the way to go? Whats the biggest difference? Berlin Out? Damn it im not a patient man

The online Flames of War Shop, im just looking at tank names and the pics and figuring out what I have.

So IS-85's have the same firepower as T34-85's except they have more armor? Yeah not cool, need more boom from my heavy tanks.

U said the assault was pushed back if 2 or more tanks were destroyed / bailed out? Is it still just 2 tanks even if I have a unit of 6 of them or a unit of 10?

Well if the Germans copied them then they gotta be pretty good, is TE's on everything TOO much or?

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