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Getting Motivated

Post  Kal on Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:37 pm

Having a hard time getting motivated to build and paint armies atm. Im finding stuff like video games that are more immediately rewarding are getting my time more then my Warhammer armies. I always seem to get thinking about Warhammer and lore and getting excited at times when i am unable to build or paint. Honestly im trying to clip all of my bits off of the spru lately and finding boxes of unbuilt units! Warhounds, Chaos Knights, Untouched Chaos chariot, Longbeards, Quarrellers, other dwarf stuff. Hell a whole TK army that is just kinda sitting there waiting to be assembled. How do you guys get into the "mood". When i build or paint i do the figs one at a time, do you guys do that or do you do a kind of assembly line where u do all the torso's all the arms then heads etc? With the Tomb King i attempted to grab 5 figs and take them from start to finish but now i just have 5 TG floating around my desk built, primed with a tiny bit of Bone Paint on em.

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Re: Getting Motivated

Post  nathanr on Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:59 pm

I play games which makes me motivated to build which gets me motivated to paint. I find events like tournaments are the most motivating for me. I need a deadline to work towards which is good and bad. It is good because I have a purpose and direction to work towards but bad because as the deadline gets closer I sometimes will cut corners in order to get the project done in time.

I think the problem for you is that as far as I can tell, you haven't played a game of warhammer in several months. Maybe make the extra effort to get out to the tournament in January. It may give you the motivation you are looking for.

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Re: Getting Motivated

Post  Galadros on Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:53 pm

Try these easy steps...
1. Slap yourself for having nothing to show for your video gaming hours.
2. Make sure your painting station is easily accessible. Whether you have a permanent desk or a tray, make sure it has all that you need so that you can sit down with fresh water, and get into.
3. Decide on only one project. Begin by narrowing down to one army. Then choose unit and put everything else away. This is really important- put it ALL away, so you can't be distracted.
4. Turn off the TV. Put on some music instead, or perhaps a podcast. Your ears can be entertained, but your eyes need to stay focused.
5. For rank and file, paint 5 models at a time. Repeating technique from 1 model to the next improves quality and efficiency. Someday you may do 20 at a time, but for now this will allow you to accomplish notable progress in each session.
6. Plan to come back. What I mean by this is to have an aim of when your next painting session will be. Try your best to stick to that self promise.
7. Take pride in your progress.

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Re: Getting Motivated

Post  ScottRadom on Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:25 pm

For me a question of motivation really ends once I am in my seat, stuff laid out in front of ready to go. Sometimes getting into the seat is the real problem. So I just force myself to sit down and do something mini related for at least a half hour a day. It doesn't always happen with kids work and stuff but if I am going to play a game, watch a movie or whatever I make sure that only happens after I've done my half hour of power.

If I had a big ass tree in the back yard I wanted gone and I chopped it only five times a day with a sharp axe eventually it would fall. I make my half hour minimum count by making sure I've focused on moving at least a little bit toward my current goal of a painted Nurgle demon army. Sometimes that means not even painting but assembling and that kind of stuff.

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Re: Getting Motivated

Post  Kal on Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:16 pm

It is true i haven't had a game in a while, I'm definitely going to be trying to get more games in for the new year. Not to sound like a broken record but im not going to the tourney again for similar reasons as last time. lol. But i agree more games would help motivate me.

Video games has much more easily accessible community and content. (no offense) So no need to slap myself because I've enjoyed all my gaming time, stories, plus i get achievements so i TOTALLY have something to show for it Razz lol

I think you got it right by saying i should narrow it down to a unit, im looking at everything as a WHOLE army and it is rly overwhelming. The only unit ive ever managed to finish is my unit of 20 Chaos Warriors because it was the only army i had and the only unit i knew how i wanted to paint at the time. Music is good to listen to, gets me in the mood but doesn't distract me like TV does. Warning do not try and watch porn while working on figs, especially bad idea if your assembling and you get Crazy Glue stuck to your hands. Just saying Razz jk

Half hour a day honestly doesn't sound like enough by the time u drag everything out, but i guess if everything was already set up and ready to go it would be alot easier... my girlfriend has tiny humans that run around so i am currently inclined to pack everything up each time im done which usually leads me to not even want to drag it out. Sunday is my only day off so i think im going to aim to do one our every sunday with a tea and some tunes....

TK are going to be the army of choice and i believe im just going to focus on Skele rank and file one at a time, those 10 Vamp Count Skele's i painted were my most enjoyable figs ive ever worked on truthfully but i think 90 % of that is because there was only 10, no army, nothing else just 10 dudes that it didn't matter how well i painted them so i wasn't as nervous to splash paint on them, and i think they turned out half decient as is...

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Post  nathanr on Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:36 pm

Video games has much more easily accessible community and content. (no offense) So no need to slap myself because I've enjoyed all my gaming time, stories, plus i get achievements so i TOTALLY have something to show for it Razz lol

I have nothing against video games, I just prefer playing games with people that I can see and talk to. Sure, video games give you the anonymity to say and do whatever you want and if you get kicked out of a game you can always join a different one. If that's what you mean by "more easily accessible" then I guess you're right but I much prefer the community we've got here in real life.

im not going to the tourney again for similar reasons as last time.

Maybe I'm out of the loop but what was that reason again?

Half hour a day honestly doesn't sound like enough by the time u drag everything out, but i guess if everything was already set up and ready to go it would be alot easier... my girlfriend has tiny humans that run around so i am currently inclined to pack everything up each time im done which usually leads me to not even want to drag it out. Sunday is my only day off so i think im going to aim to do one our every sunday with a tea and some tunes....

You'd be amazed at what half an hour or an hour at a time every day will get you. I've got the same issue as you do, I don't want my kids messing with my stuff. I've got a handy tray I stole from a hotel in Edmonton that I keep my current project in along with all the paints that I'm using and my brushes. When I want to paint I fill up my water cup, grab the tray and I'm good to go. Cleanup is just as quick.

The suggestion of 5 at a time is the right way to go. I sometimes break it down even more if I'm doing cavalry I'll do 5 riders and then their mounts. Or 5 bases. Anything that gets you a little closer to the end goal.

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Re: Getting Motivated

Post  Kuyp on Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:55 pm

My motivation comes all at once. When j get the bug to do something, things get done. Assembly is easy and i like doing it. I did my whole lizardmen army in an afternoon pretty much.

Painting is line painting. Line em up done one stage on all them and carry on.

Other things are important to so dont let yourself be down that your not working in war hammer stuff cause you are playing the latest game. The hobby is only what you take from it, some people just take more and can knock out really impressive armies some people ( me ) cant.

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Re: Getting Motivated

Post  Kal on Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:13 pm

Aye but its not just that Nathan, I have a group of guys from all over Canada, USA and other places that i use to game with nightly. Great group of guys and we all had alot of fun. Its not just about being able to be an anon dick head and bail when i get kicked. What I mean by easily accessible is if i am sitting in a bean bag chair naked at 2 am i can play with thousands of people all over the world just by hitting the power button, cant do that with Warhammer.

Your not necessarily "out of the loop" and i rly dont wana start this argument again but its the scoring, its no ones fault but my own for not being as far along as you guys with your armies. but your army for example already scores almost perfect for points before even playing a game. Its just starting myself with a handy cap, and lets face it im already pritty handy capped all by myself Wink

See your set up works really well Nathan but i dont have time to go rent a hotel in Edmonton just to get a tray tho Wink jkjk. But i shall attempt a similar set up with a tray and stuff for the new year, making it easier for me would definitely make me more willing to grab and go.

Good point Dom, its my fun hobby if i feel like i have to force myself to paint or model because im not in the mood then its no longer fun, im sure ill get my motivation again and when i do itll all be easy and fun.

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Re: Getting Motivated

Post  nathanr on Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:43 pm

1. The army is based and at least sprayed with a base coat
2. Movement Trays built and painted or sprayed for the army
3. All unit command models are discernible and assembled appropriately. *****This will be strictly enforced*****
4. display board built for the army
5. entire army is painted
6. Extra work has gone into highlighting, washes, blending on the entire army
7. The army features a number of conversions

If your army is assembled and primed with movement trays and a few conversions you score 8 before even touching a paintbrush. If you build a display board (not a hard thing to do) you score a 10 and still not have a single model painted. That's 4-6 points you don't get for not having a fully painted army. That is less than the number of points you get for a crushing loss. Besides, most people aren't painted for these events anyway.

The checklist also gives everyone something to work towards. If you are assembling your army, try a few simple conversions and make sure you build your command teams. Once that's done, start painting. Once you've got the basic paint done try some more advanced techniques then when that's done, build a display board.

I know you said you don't want to have this argument but I think it's worth having if it means you'll come out to tournaments again.

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Re: Getting Motivated

Post  ScottRadom on Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:12 pm

I'll go against the grain and say I prefer to paint one at a time. I've taken to painting one mini at a time and I break the mini down into sections (primals if you happen to be a butcher). I paint from the bottom up, left leg, right leg, belly, back, left arm, right arm, finish base, next.

It's way less efficient. WAY less. What is does do is give me an easy progress check so I know where I'm at in the painting of the mini in terms of seeing it progress. So I get the mini pay off of satisfaction knowing I've take at least one part of the whole to completion. It helps me with motivation. Also it doesn't feel nearly at all like work which is what line and batch painting do to me. To each their own.

You started the post making it sound like you missed the hobby and the game. If so the only real cure is to get back in or reevaluate what you're really missing. Or maybe it's just some kinda guilt for making an investment and not seeing it through to realize it's value. There's plenty of painted armies out there for grabs if you just want to game and need a painted army.

And with warhammer you can quite easily paint Naked at 2am. For sure.

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Re: Getting Motivated

Post  Kal on Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:18 am

Haha you just want another person to beat up on with your DE army Nathan Wink jkjk. I know i can GET some points, but honestly movement trays are the bane of my existence. They make the game so much more enjoyable but i can't make any to save my life, Don saw my last attempt and after he stopped laughing he asked if a 5yo made them, so yeah they weren't great.

Im not sure if i could paint in your style Scott, i can see the benifits of breaking it down into smaller easier jobs, that way u can't lose your progress. I usually paint the largest area of color first, or the "bottom" color.

Ive bought a fully painted army before and was not happy with it, the paint job was awesome, the color scheme was very very close to something id pick. and there was nothing wrong with the actual army. I just couldn't do an army that wasn't MINE, i felt cheated by putting it on the table, no offense to anyone who can do this i just cant. I didn't like being asked if i painted it and saying oh no i just bought it. Don't get me wrong it was a way better paint job then i'll ever beable to do, but atleast if its MY paint job the army would mean more to me... if any of that makes sense... Very Happy

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